A "well-read" suggestion.

[Vintage]

I don't think it should be removed I do however believe it should be made into a sub-board. The need for codes here has lowered as a whole spew of sites opened their coding doors and people started going there more often as their databases grew. While you could say there is no argument to get rid of them there is also no argument to keep them as prominent at they are. I don't think you can say a vast majority of people come here to look through old codes

Last entry into the database was: March 17th 2007
Last entry into submission was: June 12th 2007

so obviously it's a semi-dead area anyway, coders galore has a lot of action but a majority of those questions could be found in a tech help area as well as a request section for help focusing on ALL aspects of tech not just codes.

No to removal but yes to a sub-board, its no longer a main attraction of SSD I don't believe.

Many websites including PBS have links to our code database

maybe I am looking in the wrong spots but if any place is mentioned it's not SSD at one time yes, I'll agree with you I heard this site passed around a lot if you needed a code but not any longer and I've been around Proboards since '05.

[Kay]

I'll admit, I'm in agreement with Vintage. Setting aside personal feelings, I do believe that the database would better serve purpose as a sub-board. As long as it's still accessible, then things should be fine. I just see no reason for it to be so prominent anymore.

[Nick]

SSD's time of being known as the best in graphic and coding design is over. It's time to move on, but as Eternity says, you never know some people may still come here to get codes. And if the RPG collection code goes out, that can do the attempt SSD needs to make it known for coding again. But until then we're just milking it. I still take a look through SSD's coding database just for fun and to try and learn something new...when I feel like it. Hell I wrote some tutorials for it that isn't anywhere else yet =P.

A step into more technology would be nice, since SSD does have the member database to make it go clean.

[Wrighty]

I personally think that creating a sub-board would be best. I'm a stuck up coder (yes I admit it) I only submit my codes to very select forums, and to be completely honest, SSD isn't one of them. I do this so that I can keep tracks on problems/updates/bugs that people may have.

I will probably start to work all of my codes into remotely hosted codes so that if there are changes, I can change them quickly.

Anyway, back on topic, a sub-board is best, as Remixed mentioned alot of forums are adding a code database mAsDesigns (the forum I work for), have started to create one, and yes it's still in the early stages [though it might not see the light of day if the lastest topic in the staff board comes true], and by early stages I mean about 200 codes. That may seem alot of codes but it isn't, and some of those codes are ones not seen on PB before, or hardly anywhere else

I think getting more coders to submit to here would be a good idea. If you want to keep the coding board as it is then it needs sorting out... ALOT and just recoding all of the codes isn't good enough. A well coded index is needed, people go to places like SZ because they just type in a word and the code that they want appears right in front of them straight away and that's what gets people their codes fast.

Yes, it's faster than pressing Ctrl + F and then searching, people are lazy nowadays, get over it and cater for the lazy people. The code area could do with 2 coding mods. Not necessarily to keep the place active but to sort out the index. Then when the index is sorted demod one of them .

When you have a working index, and have sorted out the submitting and adding process and other things to do with the index then you can start to think about keeping it as a board, and not a sub-board.

In it's current state, put it as a sub-board. Also, the index needs updating to be compatible with v4.5, has anyone even thought of checking if any (probably most) of the codes need updating?

Just a few thoughts!

[Nate]

Well, as long as this topic is open, I was searching through the boards recently and noticed that the PBV3 Boards are closed, and I was wondering why this is so.

[gray929]

nate2 said:

Well, as long as this topic is open, I was searching through the boards recently and noticed that the PBV3 Boards are closed, and I was wondering why this is so.

My guess would be many of the codes were never updated to be compatible with v4. It would confuse some people. I actually remember a suggestion in this board a while back of someone asking to close it, so we did it I think.

[Me]

wrighty said:

I think getting more coders to submit to here would be a good idea. If you want to keep the coding board as it is then it needs sorting out... ALOT and just recoding all of the codes isn't good enough. A well coded index is needed, people go to places like SZ because they just type in a word and the code that they want appears right in front of them straight away and that's what gets people their codes fast.

Yes, it's faster than pressing Ctrl + F and then searching, people are lazy nowadays, get over it and cater for the lazy people. The code area could do with 2 coding mods. Not necessarily to keep the place active but to sort out the index. Then when the index is sorted demod one of them .

Why would SSD add even the smallest ammount of loading time for such a useless feature? The code index is fairly organized as it is. Anyone with any competance on the internet can find a code they are looking for. If they can't, they really shouldn't be using them in the first place.

Besides, SSD is an art and design forum. The community, and those two areas is what SSD should be focussing on. With the PBS database covering basically any coding issue you can ever encounter on proboards, I don't see the point in any forum having a coding database, especially this one. That being said, some members do demand it, so I don't care whether or not it stays, but adding stupid quick find codes to the forum is a waist of time.

If you think your codes shouldn't go in one of the oldest, most respected, and most professional forum in all of proboards, then don't post them. I doubt SSD will miss them.

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Rather then putting all the effort into a resource that is plentifull on the internet already, maybe put some effort into the coding community on SSD. Maybe try to build a bit of a coding member base, and then maybe ... just maybe ... the coding area will be less of a thing of the past. The members of this forum are over bending over backwards for the disrespectfull graphics/coding requesters that filled it in the past. Let's start fresh.

I know it isn't as easy as just snapping your fingers, but at the very least, a limited coding community is better then none at all.

[Remixed]

eternity said:

No more talk about the database now unless you have a *decent* reason for it's removal that doesn't include "it's not being used" or "we can't compete with other forums" because frankly, they don't really hold.

Alright, here:

1: No submissions for over the last 6 months.
2: No other coders on the forum, except the amazing mod, Dalton.
3: Even though Dalton is doing an amazing job, there isn't a way to bring it back.
4: SSD even now claims it is not a coding forum, that SSD is an Art/Design forum.
5: SSD looks like it's inactive as long as it's coding database in active. Having a whole category devoted to coding, without barely activity makes SSD look dead, hence another reason why people don't post here often anymore.


If I'm sounding rude or anything, sorry, just trying to type fast before it logs me out.

[gray929]

prosaxplayer said:

5: SSD looks like it's inactive as long as it's coding database in active. Having a whole category devoted to coding, without barely activity makes SSD look dead, hence another reason why people don't post here often anymore.

We aren't going to devote a whole cat to it. The Technology board will most likely go in the coding cat if we implement it. We will just probably rename the cat title to something else.

Those are all good points, but still no reason to get rid of it. I think the best thing is to just give it a board and be done with it. Only one person here really has a problem with keeping it, but he's gone now so we should be fine. I was thinking this.

Technology

Technology
-Tech Support

Coding Database
-Code Submissions

So thats two boards and two sub boards. 4 in all.

[Wrighty]

Sounds good to me...

I still think the database needs cleaning up.. codes testing & updating to vb4.5

[Admin]

eternity said:

hmph... tell me this after I spent a week re-doing the index

I think we should keep the database, regardless of what you guys think it does see use (no-one can post in that board after all). Just because you, personally, do not use the codes here, doesn't mean others do not.

The code database does need updating however, with the old submissions adding to it. If it is seen to be updated then I am sure codes will be submitted to it. It would, of course, be nice if anyone who could code submitted some themselves.

I'm liking the idea of merging the galore/support area and adding technical support to it also, but as Gray said, we're currently discussing that.

I agree on the database. I still get IMs asking me questions that I have to direct them to it. It may not be as busy as before- and it may not be a primary source anymore, as it was before PB Support took on that role- but it's obvious to me that the occasional person is still stumbling through it... and that, along with the amount of time individuals poured into creating their codes, is enough reason to keep it viewable- even if it's not contributed into.

[Vintage]

k they will just look at codes that don't work
sounds like a brillant plan

[eternity]

Dalton is quite happy to update them Vintage, stop making it sound like we're leaving it there to piss off those who don't like it.

[Vintage]

I wasn't ... it is a lot of codes to update for one person ... again I never suggested them to be removed only one person did.

[eternity]

I apologise then, it was just your tone.

The process will take a while, but I'll be going through them with him, testing to see what work and what do not. If more people want to help then that'll be good too. It'll be like a very boring community project XD

[Dalton]

I am also very happy to update codes from the V3 database if a member needs them and there is nothing like it in V4 Database, that is why I have began this project. I got to reading this page and I am confused as to whether or not I am the only one who can view all 3 databases, if I am then I am also happy to search the database for codes that you need and update them as you need them.

I really want to help the coding areas and want to help members with their codes. It is why I wanted this position. I was given a talent for coding and math and all problems logical. I think that It is a complete waste of my time to have the talent and not try to help people as much as I can.

Edit: Not confused anymore. I logged on as Jamie and looked.

[mrsmiley]

himura said:

I really want to help the coding areas and want to help members with their codes. It is why I wanted this position. I was given a talent for coding and math and all problems logical. I think that It is a complete waste of my time to have the talent and not try to help people as much as I can.

Right, I don't really know you (though I do believe I saw you around mAsdesigns, do you go there?) so don't consider this a personal shot.

I was visiting the Code Help boards or whatever their called, and I noticed that you didn't really help anyone. Now, mind you, I am not insisting that this is in fact what is happening: I've been here barely a week. But I am merely stating that you seem to always state you will do something about the code, yet you never actually end up doing so.

Just had to point that out. Yet again, take no offense to it.

[Dalton]

I typically fill them, I am a little behind right now because of being crippled and being in out hospital and doctors offices for the past 2 and a half weeks. Other times some people have beat me to the shot, but over this past month, it just got stacked on me when this thing happened with my leg. I am working on that this weekend.

No offense taken though. I understand where you were coming from.


(Also sometimes when I say I will help but ask for more instructions, the person never comes back.)

[mrsmiley]

himura said:

I typically fill them, I am a little behind right now because of being crippled and being in out hospital and doctors offices for the past 2 and a half weeks. Other times some people have beat me to the shot, but over this past month, it just got stacked on me when this thing happened with my leg. I am working on that this weekend.

No offense taken though. I understand where you were coming from.


(Also sometimes when I say I will help but ask for more instructions, the person never comes back.)

Fair enough.

[Wrighty]

Dalton, if you need any help, give me a buzz!