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Post by Remixed on Feb 22, 2008 2:31:51 GMT
You know, I'm not even going to post anything, just click the link in my signature (or in my signature at support).
If you ban me, that proves my point completely. Don't see who would ban me though.... the administrators aren't the ones who locked that thread.
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Post by Kay on Feb 22, 2008 2:36:13 GMT
Completely unnecessary. Honestly, maybe if some people had shown great loyalty, there wouldn't be a problem. Next time, take it to a PM with Alan if you're than interested in the well-being of SSD. Although if you were, I don't see how posting that is going to help.
Alan said everything that ran through my mind, so I won't say much else.
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Post by Alan on Feb 22, 2008 2:36:37 GMT
That thread wasn't locked by me. Just like this one won't be.
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Post by Remixed on Feb 22, 2008 2:38:14 GMT
Alright, my apologies on that part then... but still.
And Kay, I did take it up with a PM to Alan, he didn't respond.
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Post by Alan on Feb 22, 2008 2:40:08 GMT
I didn't respond because I have no reason to. You have to realise that this isn't the first time this has been brought up... nor the second, or third. We (I) get this all of the time. It doesn't help anything at all. We know the problems SSD has; you don't need to point them out to us. This board is for new suggestions for improvements; not for flogging a dead horse.
All threads like that end up doing is annoying staff members.
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Post by Kay on Feb 22, 2008 2:45:18 GMT
Well there you have it, from the designer himself. v6 is in the works, so how about you leave it be for now? All the discussion is going to do is flail out of hand and SSD has enough issues with members than giving them even more ammunition. As for the coder of v6...well, it should be quite obvious. Though that's information for the upper staff to deal out if they deem necessary. You guys may say it's overrated, just be patient. SSD has hit boulders in the past in producing v6, but beating the dead horse with a stick won't do any good.
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Post by gray929 on Feb 22, 2008 2:51:51 GMT
I honestly think if we kept this skin for 3 more years, SSD still wouldn't die. Its the community that makes a forum, not its skin, and we have the best community on Proboards. That is why everyone keeps coming back and why everyone in the future will keep coming back regardless of the skin. That was the main reason I joined this forum and the main reason thousands of others did.
And, on your blog you say we are dieing? Just because we don't get as many posts as we did a few years ago does not in any way justify that statement. We amass more posts than the bulk of forums on Proboards on a daily basis, not that it really matters. PBS does not keep dead forums on their Featured Board list.
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Post by Vintage on Feb 22, 2008 2:53:41 GMT
Remix lol That poor horse  |
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Post by Vintage on Feb 22, 2008 2:56:07 GMT
I honestly think if we kept this skin for 3 more years, SSD still wouldn't die. Its the community that makes a forum, not its skin, and we have the best community on Proboards. That is why everyone keeps coming back and why everyone in the future will keep coming back regardless of the skin. That was the main reason I joined this forum and the main reason thousands of others did. Aww We are a community   lol I think the issue was that their is a lot of promising but nothing but false ones on the staffs part about the next version ... not so much that the version hasn't come yet. Lets play nice but somebody shouldn't have locked remix's thread ... who ever did that |
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Post by nrich on Feb 22, 2008 3:02:10 GMT
Nathan says:
i remember when the v6 layout leaked and nobody liked it
Nathan says:
and so oliver was like "okay then we wont put it up"
Nathan says:
its the members fault =P
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Post by gray929 on Feb 22, 2008 3:03:48 GMT
I honestly think if we kept this skin for 3 more years, SSD still wouldn't die. Its the community that makes a forum, not its skin, and we have the best community on Proboards. That is why everyone keeps coming back and why everyone in the future will keep coming back regardless of the skin. That was the main reason I joined this forum and the main reason thousands of others did. Aww We are a community lol I think the issue was that their is a lot of promising but nothing but false ones on the staffs part about the next version ... not so much that the version hasn't come yet. Lets play nice but somebody shouldn't have locked remix's thread ... who ever did that As juvenile as it sounds, we are a very close community. So close, that there is a supposed "Inner Circle" on this forum. As I said, thats why everyone comes back to SSD. You can get support on life issues or vent about your girlfriend cheating on you with a girl. Its things like that I love about this forum.  As kay said before, if you aren't happy with us, the door is only a click away. |
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Post by Saknika on Feb 22, 2008 3:41:03 GMT
Honestly... your journal sounded like childish ranting to me. Life happens, and skins take FOREVER to make. So does coding. And if you have to keep switching between designers and stuff, it just takes longer. And if we were to let the members design the board, there would be major inconsistencies. Also, last I knew, we could express opinions. But think about it, if you were constantly hearing nothing but bitching about something you were doing out of the good of your heart, would it really seem worth it anymore? No. So stop and think before you make a total ass about yourself. V6 is not that important.
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Post by pandora on Feb 22, 2008 3:50:08 GMT
You know what? I jump on SSD this evening to check on things, and I see THE SAME DAMN CONVERSATION, THE SAME ONE I'VE SEEN OVER AND OVER. I see talk of "We can't trust the higher staff because they make promises they can't keep" and "No one cares about SSD". I'M TIRED AND PISSED OFF THAT CURRENT AND ACTIVE MEMBERS CAN KEEP SAYING THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN STICK AROUND ANYWAY!
Who FUCKING cares about a goddamn skin? Really? If it's all about flash and not content with you, then follow through with your threat and just disa-fucking-pear like a fart in the wind. Work on this site is voluntary, not some high paying job or a high ranking political office. This is a free fucking forum. Alan is working on his own time to appease the whiners, but make no mistake, HE OWES US NOTHING. I am grateful he is willing to do the work. How kind that he takes his free time to design it. Thank you, Alan. Don't hurry. Just make sure it is up to your standards. A rush job will produce shoddy work, so work at your own pace.
I could give a flying shit if this site was straight up black and white. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a pretty skin, but does content have nothing to do with why people come here? The community? Some of us just like to come here and chill, INCLUDING THE STAFF. As much as we work, we enjoy the community, and that's why we are all here. We don't need long, negative threads. It doesn't help anything. It doesn't hurry the process, it just pisses us off...and I'm not even one of the ones working on the new skin!
I'm one more negative thread away from washing my hands of my gmod-ship. I took it under duress because they needed someone, and I wanted to give back to the community that has helped me in so many ways. I keep it because there is no replacement ready to step in AND I DON'T WANT TO LET YOU, THE MEMBERS, DOWN. But I must tell you this, the staff gets constantly heckled, is under-appreciated and given very little incentive to continue to bend over backwards for you since some of you are so damn ungrateful and very vocal about the fact.
I'm not talking to the majority, but that small tenacious faction that just can't let this go. I want to slap each of you that really thinks its worth making us feel shitty just so you can look at some shiny new colors when you log into SSD. How about letting the artwork shine on its own? How about not putting so much stock in looks? Maybe try contributing something positive instead of acting like the world owes you a shiny new skin, and thinking if you throw a tantrum maybe you'll get that cookie you want so bad.
I'm a patient woman, but I'm losing my enthusiasm by leaps and bounds these days. This site that used to mean so much to me, well, I actually dread coming here sometimes because I can't stand to see the staff bashed over and over.
Here's a suggestion. Drop the torches and pitchforks and relax for once. Just go with the flow, enjoy the conversations, have fun. Is that so much to ask?
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Post by Vintage on Feb 22, 2008 4:04:00 GMT
I hope I'm not on 'Dora's list
hmm ... and Gray I totally agree, though I'm not the most well known I always feel welcomed here and i like that about this area. Over on a few of the other big forums you just feel like a number ... I feel like people like each other around here.
*Pulls out a guitar* Give peace a chance ...
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Post by gray929 on Feb 22, 2008 4:08:44 GMT
ha, thats so true about the #. I feel the same way on other forums.
Can I play the drums if you get the guitar?
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Post by Saknika on Feb 22, 2008 4:09:42 GMT
Wow, I look really kind next to Pandy. *hugs her because she needs one*
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Post by gray929 on Feb 22, 2008 4:14:51 GMT
Wow, I look really kind next to Pandy. *hugs her because she needs one* The thread just came at a bad time. *joins group hug* *places right hand on Saknika's left ass cheek* *Saknika punches Gray* |
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Post by pandora on Feb 22, 2008 4:19:10 GMT
haha That's funny, Gray. And thank you, Saknika.
I don't even know if anyone at all is on my list, Vintage, I'm just so tired of negativity.
As far as locking that thread, we lock all threads discussing V6 if they aren't helpful suggestions, just impatient complaining. We lock them because they are spam. We've asked repeatedly that people stop posting "Where's V6?" threads.
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Post by Saknika on Feb 22, 2008 4:27:30 GMT
*nods* Even I was around for that notice. I think I asked once, a while ago, and was very excited for it. But I don't remember pestering. Because pestering and bitching just makes people stop. Negativity is naught but a step backwards. That it is.
And you're welcome Pandora. <3 I try to take care of all my friends.
Edit: And yeah, you would be punched Gray. xD But that amused me.
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Post by Vintage on Feb 22, 2008 4:30:26 GMT
haha That's funny, Gray. And thank you, Saknika. I don't even know if anyone at all is on my list, Vintage, I'm just so tired of negativity. As far as locking that thread, we lock all threads discussing V6 if they aren't helpful suggestions, just impatient complaining. We lock them because they are spam. We've asked repeatedly that people stop posting "Where's V6?" threads. I am not negative I am positive ... Lovee you all |
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