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Post by Xeron on Mar 10, 2006 3:50:45 GMT
It just won't work out in the long run. <_< Look at the clans, or any other group project, very few work. =/ I agree. I think it will do decent towards the start but slowly overtime start losing the members activity and become dead.
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Post by Josh on Mar 10, 2006 20:15:21 GMT
Alright, I have read every post and haven't seen much about it. A single thread turns into a spamfest. Look at the Dork Clan, before the first shut-down there was about 80 pages of posts. Astounding activity compared to the other clans, but most of it was unorganized and in general, spam.
As for the idea in general, we have built an inner circle around here. I'm sure a lot of you have noticed it. Most of the things we are doing right now is trying to dismantle this inner circle and move back towards the community feel. The whole club idea would just add many inner circles and would leave people out.
And any suggestion like this comes down to activity. We have the activity here to push something like this along for a time, but in the long run, they will fail just like any other thing like this we have ever done.
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Post by Xephra on Mar 10, 2006 21:11:14 GMT
=/ Pessimism at it's best, if you commit to something anything can happen. I have some ideas for this were it to become a possibility.
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Post by Josh on Mar 10, 2006 21:12:59 GMT
Yes, but how many people would commit themselves? I'm gonna have to really work for people to make one image for the Cohesion Battles. Imagine trying to get people to post in a singular thread about one subject. I just don't see it working.
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Post by Xephra on Mar 10, 2006 21:25:39 GMT
Yes, but how many people would commit themselves? I'm gonna have to really work for people to make one image for the Cohesion Battles. Imagine trying to get people to post in a singular thread about one subject. I just don't see it working. ...Don't give me that, see how many people entered into the cohesion battles? And the signup was only for like a week okay. I wish I could say what I want but I'd get up to 50% warning.
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Post by nrich on Mar 10, 2006 21:27:38 GMT
Yes, but how many people would commit themselves? I'm gonna have to really work for people to make one image for the Cohesion Battles. Imagine trying to get people to post in a singular thread about one subject. I just don't see it working. Just because some people don't want to make an image, doesn't mean they're not going to do anything else. Why would you even compare this to that? And who are you to say it won't happen? I don't see an Administrator tag under your name.
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Post by Admin on Mar 10, 2006 21:42:24 GMT
To clear a few things up, he doesn't need to have an administrator tag to give what he thinks.
There is a problem with commitment, some may not actually see it or not seen it or seen it for a litle while due to most contests being reduced in number. Things like The Herald don't run without significant difficulty in getting articles in on time, sign ups for something like the cohesion battles can go either of two ways, lots of sign ups doesn't always mean a high turnout in the end.
That said...I've been thinking about having the chatroom restablished again, but perhaps more specialised nights where people talk about something in particular? Rather than having formalities of a club.
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Post by Xephra on Mar 10, 2006 21:48:34 GMT
To clear a few things up, he doesn't need to have an administrator tag to give what he thinks. There is a problem with commitment, some may not actually see it or not seen it or seen it for a litle while due to most contests being reduced in number. Things like The Herald don't run without significant difficulty in getting articles in on time, sign ups for something like the cohesion battles can go either of two ways, lots of sign ups doesn't always mean a high turnout in the end. That said...I've been thinking about having the chatroom restablished again, but perhaps more specialised nights where people talk about something in particular? Rather than having formalities of a club. No one particularly insulted him at all equals slash. Whatever though, you're right, nothing can work here because no one will put in the effort.
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Post by Del on Mar 12, 2006 20:26:24 GMT
That said...I've been thinking about having the chatroom restablished again, but perhaps more specialised nights where people talk about something in particular? Rather than having formalities of a club. I would go to a normal chat like we used to have, but if it was something specific and only on certain days, I wouldn't.
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Post by nrich on Mar 12, 2006 23:12:09 GMT
That said...I've been thinking about having the chatroom restablished again, but perhaps more specialised nights where people talk about something in particular? Rather than having formalities of a club. I would go to a normal chat like we used to have, but if it was something specific and only on certain days, I wouldn't. Yeah, it felt forced, especially since it was on deviantART. I miss the cgibin chatroom.
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Post by Mith on Mar 13, 2006 0:33:08 GMT
Alright, I have read every post and haven't seen much about it. A single thread turns into a spamfest. Look at the Dork Clan, before the first shut-down there was about 80 pages of posts. Astounding activity compared to the other clans, but most of it was unorganized and in general, spam. As for the idea in general, we have built an inner circle around here. I'm sure a lot of you have noticed it. Most of the things we are doing right now is trying to dismantle this inner circle and move back towards the community feel. The whole club idea would just add many inner circles and would leave people out. And any suggestion like this comes down to activity. We have the activity here to push something like this along for a time, but in the long run, they will fail just like any other thing like this we have ever done. As someone who is definitely not in any circles at all I think this would be a really good idea to help get oher members, like me, involved. There are loads of people on this forum who don't really know anyone (like me - I know only a few members such as Morgy) and if you were to create clubs (password protected, perhaps) that bring people with the same interests together I think it would really work. After all, most fora are very specific in terms of their content, and a community feel is created because everyone shares an interest. Instead of creating lots of circles, it would create friendships.
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Post by pandora on Mar 14, 2006 2:47:48 GMT
Mithrandir: I've read a couple of your posts, and you make a lot of sense to me, especially the above post.
I find too many people view forums as words and no more. Meanwhile, there are people behind those words, and yes real friendship and comradery is possible, even through the net.
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Post by Luke on Mar 14, 2006 4:22:47 GMT
So Oliver. We need your final word. No clubs? Or clubs? Or will you and the staff think over it.
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Mar 15, 2006 16:14:00 GMT
Well, you could have specialist groups like music for example...but I don't think members should be allowed to make them, should be a totally staff driven thing. Yes, I know I'm saying this stuff because I'm staff, and I would be saying if I was a member that members over 1000 posts could create club but looking at it from this perspective I would advise against it. The reason is that just because you have 1000 posts doesn't mean you're reliable enough to run a whole board.
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Post by Admin on Mar 15, 2006 17:37:47 GMT
So Oliver. We need your final word. No clubs? Or clubs? Or will you and the staff think over it. Well I'm not really sure, it's a good idea in theory, especially if people can get to know each other, but I thats why I was thinking of chatrooms, we could of course have the standard chat aswell as occasional things which have a theme to them. It's then a little bit free-er. For the clubs idea, would people be willing to commit themselves. Previous things like this only work out for the short term.
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Mar 15, 2006 19:44:22 GMT
So Oliver. We need your final word. No clubs? Or clubs? Or will you and the staff think over it. Well I'm not really sure, it's a good idea in theory, especially if people can get to know each other, but I thats why I was thinking of chatrooms, we could of course have the standard chat aswell as occasional things which have a theme to them. It's then a little bit free-er. For the clubs idea, would people be willing to commit themselves. Previous things like this only work out for the short term. I would commit to them. It would really bring together the community, the only problem being is you're creating very select groups so you're actually seperating up the community.
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Post by Luke on Mar 15, 2006 19:55:52 GMT
Well I'm not really sure, it's a good idea in theory, especially if people can get to know each other, but I thats why I was thinking of chatrooms, we could of course have the standard chat aswell as occasional things which have a theme to them. It's then a little bit free-er. For the clubs idea, would people be willing to commit themselves. Previous things like this only work out for the short term. I would commit to them. It would really bring together the community, the only problem being is you're creating very select groups so you're actually seperating up the community. I would be commited. You know me Ollie. Well, you could have specialist groups like music for example...but I don't think members should be allowed to make them, should be a totally staff driven thing. Yes, I know I'm saying this stuff because I'm staff, and I would be saying if I was a member that members over 1000 posts could create club but looking at it from this perspective I would advise against it. The reason is that just because you have 1000 posts doesn't mean you're reliable enough to run a whole board. I think the best way to solve this problem is for Oliver to chose the leader of that certain group. He knows who can run one and who can't.
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Post by Ovi on Mar 16, 2006 21:52:56 GMT
Well, you could have specialist groups like music for example...but I don't think members should be allowed to make them, should be a totally staff driven thing. Yes, I know I'm saying this stuff because I'm staff, and I would be saying if I was a member that members over 1000 posts could create club but looking at it from this perspective I would advise against it. The reason is that just because you have 1000 posts doesn't mean you're reliable enough to run a whole board. Please read the whole thread. It's not a whole board that members will control, it's just a thread lol And I would say that you give this a try. It might work out. What's the harm in trying ? The Lit board was expected to be whooping active but it's not. And it didn't harm SSD in any way.
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Mar 16, 2006 22:05:53 GMT
Well, you could have specialist groups like music for example...but I don't think members should be allowed to make them, should be a totally staff driven thing. Yes, I know I'm saying this stuff because I'm staff, and I would be saying if I was a member that members over 1000 posts could create club but looking at it from this perspective I would advise against it. The reason is that just because you have 1000 posts doesn't mean you're reliable enough to run a whole board. Please read the whole thread. It's not a whole board that members will control, it's just a thread lol And I would say that you give this a try. It might work out. What's the harm in trying ? The Lit board was expected to be whooping active but it's not. And it didn't harm SSD in any way. A thread? That's lame. For a club you need different topics and threads, a sub-board would suffice under a board entitled 'Clubs' but a thread? You want a thread on music? Go make it in chillout.
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Post by Ovi on Mar 16, 2006 22:10:02 GMT
Please read the whole thread. It's not a whole board that members will control, it's just a thread lol And I would say that you give this a try. It might work out. What's the harm in trying ? The Lit board was expected to be whooping active but it's not. And it didn't harm SSD in any way. A thread? That's lame. For a club you need different topics and threads, a sub-board would suffice under a board entitled 'Clubs' but a thread? You want a thread on music? Go make it in chillout. The Chill Out is not for creating clubs since it doesn't allow any kind of recruiting. A thread can work out and it has in forums 100x the size of SSD.
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