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Post by frenchie on Jan 31, 2006 1:32:16 GMT
Noticed a locked topic in show off, which is fine and all, except all thats really going to happen now is another topic will be made, and some one will get annoyed.
Only really mentioning this because some people only get 1 comment before there work vanishes onto page 2 of the show off category, never to be seen again.
Maybe you could change the bumping rule, e.g. Its allowed for as long as the topic is no longer than 2 days old or something along those lines. This really should only apply in the show off area, because this is where it mainly happens.
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Post by Josh on Jan 31, 2006 1:34:45 GMT
You're allowed to repost your image the second it goes to the second page, which is usually quicker than 2 days, usually 1 day.
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Post by Necropedophile on Jan 31, 2006 1:36:26 GMT
You're allowed to repost your image the second it goes to the second page. I don't go there much, but that's kind of pointless. Wouldn't it make more sense to allow people to bump it after it reaches page 2 or 3 or whatever rather than cluttering up the board with more threads? |
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Post by frenchie on Jan 31, 2006 1:39:13 GMT
You're allowed to repost your image the second it goes to the second page. I don't go there much, but that's kind of pointless. Wouldn't it make more sense to allow people to bump it after it reaches page 2 or 3 or whatever rather than cluttering up the board with more threads? I agree. Mabye give people a certain amount of bumps. I.e.
Bump 1
Bump 2
Bump 3
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Post by Josh on Jan 31, 2006 1:40:15 GMT
Not necessarily. Allowing new threads to be posted like that keeps the threads themselves clean and there is nothing wrong with an excess of threads. I think I remember Ollie saying something about cleaning out any threads older than like 6 months, not sure though.
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Post by frenchie on Jan 31, 2006 1:46:00 GMT
Well, its more of a question of can people be bothered to repost their work which few people commented on? or just go somewhere else where you can bump instead of reposting? And however nicely its put, when your topic is locked because you wanted people to comment by bumping it to the top, doesn't leave a pleasant taste.
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Post by Josh on Jan 31, 2006 1:50:55 GMT
Well, I don't see a problem with it and in the almost 2 years I have been here, this is the first complaint I have seen about it. Must not be a big deal.
And generally (not all the time, the thread in question doesn't apply to this), the bump is within an hour or two of the last post. I've even seen people get mad when no one comments after 10 minutes. Point aside, I don't think it is that hard to copy your post and paste it into a new post. Takes just as long as it would to post a bump.
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Post by Necropedophile on Jan 31, 2006 1:57:15 GMT
Well, I don't see a problem with it and in the almost 2 years I have been here, this is the first complaint I have seen about it. Must not be a big deal. Many people are generally followers rather than leaders, so I'm sure many have had problems, but aren't the type to start a thread concerning it. But that's what I think, I could be wrong. Obviously the No Bumping rule isn't stopping people from bumping within hours anyway, as you've said, so what would adding a rule to allow bumping based on what page it's on change? Ultimately, it's up to you and the other staff, but it never hurts to consider your members' opinions. |
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Post by frenchie on Jan 31, 2006 2:01:37 GMT
Well, I don't see a problem with it and in the almost 2 years I have been here, this is the first complaint I have seen about it. Must not be a big deal. And generally (not all the time, the thread in question doesn't apply to this), the bump is within an hour or two of the last post. I've even seen people get mad when no one comments after 10 minutes. Point aside, I don't think it is that hard to copy your post and paste it into a new post. Takes just as long as it would to post a bump. I'm only trying to suggest a way to keep members here, seems that attitude towards it haven't kept many so far, after all, i left after people didn't really see my work fit to comment on, and i watched 4/5 pieces of my work slowly disappear down the page, the only person who did comment, was Oliver. The only reason you don't hear many complaints is because people don't bother to complain, they just pick up and leave like i did, to be honest, i didn't really see any point in complaining, i didn't think anything would change. Well, I don't see a problem with it and in the almost 2 years I have been here, this is the first complaint I have seen about it. Must not be a big deal. Many people are generally followers rather than leaders, so I'm sure many have had problems, but aren't the type to start a thread concerning it. But that's what I think, I could be wrong. Obviously the No Bumping rule isn't stopping people from bumping within hours anyway, as you've said, so what would adding a rule to allow bumping based on what page it's on change? Ultimately, it's up to you and the other staff, but it never hurts to consider your members' opinions. I agree. |
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Post by eternity on Jan 31, 2006 3:48:40 GMT
so, you'd rather have few comments and loads of "bumps" in your topic, making it look like you are "desperate" for a rate than having a nice clean topic?
^^ forgive me if that sounded rude, just trying to get a point across.
if you are serious about improving your work, you should not complain about having to make another topic. you could implement the suggestions already given (if any) and repost asking if the design is better or just for more comments (though to be honest, that is a little rude. if people take the time to comment on your work the least that can be done is to try and add their suggestions to your work. the point of show off is to help you afterall)
anyway, this is just how ssd does things. we aren't going to change it just because thats how everyone else does it. the system works for us.
and as for the existing bumping, that is merely because of people assuming too much. the rules state clearly that bumping is not allowed so there should be no animosity when a topic is locked for breaking that rule.
yes we do take into account your views and opinions, that is what this board is for. but to implement a system of numeric bumps, or allow a certain amount if a thread reaches a certain page would cause more confusion than just no bumps at all or bumps allowed.
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Post by Luke on Jan 31, 2006 4:27:56 GMT
so, you'd rather have few comments and loads of "bumps" in your topic, making it look like you are "desperate" for a rate than having a nice clean topic? ^^ forgive me if that sounded rude, just trying to get a point across. if you are serious about improving your work, you should not complain about having to make another topic. you could implement the suggestions already given (if any) and repost asking if the design is better or just for more comments (though to be honest, that is a little rude. if people take the time to comment on your work the least that can be done is to try and add their suggestions to your work. the point of show off is to help you afterall) anyway, this is just how ssd does things. we aren't going to change it just because thats how everyone else does it. the system works for us. and as for the existing bumping, that is merely because of people assuming too much. the rules state clearly that bumping is not allowed so there should be no animosity when a topic is locked for breaking that rule. yes we do take into account your views and opinions, that is what this board is for. but to implement a system of numeric bumps, or allow a certain amount if a thread reaches a certain page would cause more confusion than just no bumps at all or bumps allowed. Well said E. Everythings going smoothly in the S.O board. You really don't need to bump at all. Most of your work you post there will get rated by either Ovi, Nooki or me, even Oliver at times. So what I'm saying is, its not a big problem right about now.  igi-- |
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Post by frenchie on Jan 31, 2006 11:00:22 GMT
Well, i still think i have a valid point, mabye this is why you have 10,000 members+
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2006 14:14:51 GMT
You do have a point which I can understand, I know it's frustrating to recieve few comments on work, I experience it on DeviantArt sometimes. However, it is far more clearer to prohibit it completely rather than having certain limits. For example the page number idea, that can be open to abuse, I have no record of whether that topic was genuinely on the second page or not. I don't remember the topic titles too well and they can move quickly. Limits to bumping can mean that people can bump rather old topics, then to prohibit that you have to introduce some timescale. If it was a certain time limit, (as was proved before with the image request area) some people continually posted before the limit. So the best to do it is to post a new topic |
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Post by Mucleus on Jan 31, 2006 18:00:21 GMT
Ratings rules are always hard to create, from experience on a certain forum beginning with Z. I took hours to compile a rule set, and it still didn't work, it took 17 to make something that the members were happy with. I can't actually remember whether it did involve bumps or new threads, but really it shouldn't matter. The idea I had (which failed) was that members would request moderators to bump their threads, thus not generating any new posts. It failed because the moderators (me) weren't on enough, and/or the members quite rightly couldn't be bothered. People will rate what they want to. Just because work is on the first page doesn't mean it will be the most popular topic. Either raters can figure out that the board goes beyond the first page (  ) or else people can just post new threads. Problem solved... |
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) or else people can just post new threads. Problem solved...