SSD - ClanFX - Your thoughts on the manner.

[aftervisions]

Admins, gmods, please don't lock this, it's simply a thread asking members what they thought/think about it, and how successful it would be if it was brought back.

I personally loved ClanFX - I spent many hours setting up a clan, running it, making sigs for it, etc. I was upset to see it go.

*hypthetically* If it were to be brought back, what would you want to see changed in it? I for one, would like to see an application to start a clan. The admins/gmods could decide which members are suitable enough to start a clan, and then they would give them permission to start one.

Every other month, a clan would host a "clan war" in which that clan would make up the rules, and the other clans would participate. Clan battles could happen regularly, and the winner of the most clan battles each month would get their clan thread stickied.

As for activeness, if a clan doesn't join the war, or joins the war and doesn't have members participate in it, their clan will be shut down and the creator would have to start all over again.

I think it would work, if everyone put in the effort to get it started. What do you think?

[Fox]

i would love to see it back

[Edd]

Very intruiging idea here Nick, this could be rather contraversial but in effect i think this could work...

With the addition of many new board moderators the effectiveness of the moderating team has increased greatly, they are able to handle multiple boards and deal with each situation / event accordingly.

Clan FX was a huge success back in the day, with many successful teams participating against eachother. It was a great experience for me and many other clan members. I firmly believe aspiring to join one of these teams successfully contributed to my success with my digital art.

Digital / Traditional art plays a role in this community, therefore i think this addition (or revivial) would be, in my opinion a great idea and contribute towards new members, a more successful community sprirt and something to aspire to for the blossoming artists.

Im in support of this.

[Josh]

I think that it should be done somewhat like F5 had been doing. Each clan will have their own sub board with a password to ensure privacy and allow the members to talk freely and discuss the goings on without needing to search through a 20 page thread (or 100 in DORK's case).

A thread would be made asking for actvie members to sign up and make a clan. If accepted, they would give the name of the clan and a password to an admin to make the sub board for them. They would then make a non-stickied thread asking for people to sign up. Any non-sign up related chat in the thread would result in a warning to the clan (if the clan was the ones doing the chatting). Any more off-topic chat would result in suspensions and expulsions.

Members would be chosen by the clan leaders, but would first need to be approved by the clan board mod, or whoever is in charge of it. This would help ensure that the members are capable of making graphics and that they are active.

If a member would become inactive in the clan, they would get one warning pm. If no reply is sent back, they are immediately released from the clan. No questions asked. They would then be placed on a two-week suspension in which they cannot return to any clan. The same goes for anybody that leaves a clan. Two weeks before they can rejoin. They would also need to be in the clan for a month before quitting.

As for battles, a bi-monthly clan war would be held. Each clan would be required to participate. No participation= no clan. Simple as that. The clan war would be either member vs member dueling or one big collab like a forum template or something like that. Voting on the winners would be held during the next month, in which every member of the forum is allowed to vote. The winners will be awarded something small that keeps getting bigger with each win. Sigs or coloring their board name would be good for first and second time winners.

As for activity in between the two months, each clan would be allowed to call out another clan with a thread in the main board. These battles would be discussed in these threads and then they would set up a deadline for everything to be in by. No prizes will be handed out for these, just prestige and braggin rights.

The last thing I can think up is spam inside the clan boards. It would need to be controlled. The mod of the board would know the password to each board and would control it. If it gets over-bearing, suspensions will be handed out. In these suspensions, the board is closed and all members are not allowed to post in any board to do with clans and when it will be reinstated.

I got more to add, just cant think of it at the moment.

[Quacker]

No need to write a huge thing.

I think it's a great idea and would definately support it, if it would be brought back.

[Josh]

quacker9122 said:

No need to write a huge thing.

I think it's a great idea and would definately support it, if it would be brought back.

Didn't even realize how much I wrote. And besides Oliver said last time that we needed a new system, so I wrote up a quick draft.

[Quacker]

jaj43123 said:

quacker9122 said:

No need to write a huge thing.

I think it's a great idea and would definately support it, if it would be brought back.

Didn't even realize how much I wrote. And besides Oliver said last time that we needed a new system, so I wrote up a quick draft.

Oh, I was just saying for myself.

As in, me myself will not write a long post.

[Admin]

Nice ideas there Exultance, well thought out and everything

It's great in theory but when it gets down to it, it falls apart. Look at the duel board, there are enough issues trying to get enough votes for 2 peoples work, let alone a whole group of people.

The last time it was here out of the pages of different clans we had, there were a very small hanful that actually did a few battles. It seemed like a constant struggle, thus it was not a huge sucess. More of a mess.

[Crazed]

Clan FX was crazy cool. The problems involved people not getting their pieces in to the leader on time and not having anybody voting in battles. Otherwise, it went fairly successful and I didn't have too much trouble getting active member to participate.

[eternity]

I don't see how it'd work, we set up clan boards after the board here collapsed and no0one wanted any pat of it then...

sorry, just being a pain

Don't get me wrong, I'd quite like it back, just pointing out the problems

[Max]

I want Dork back!

[Mitchell]

I agree fully with Nick on this one. I think we should give it another but with much more organization and better rules, as Nick listed.

[Akai Shuichi]

I say bring it back...

[c130]

I want to see it back, the clan board was what made me stick around SSD.

The problem of voting would be overcome if you simply required that people say which they vote for rather than giving a detailed explanation for each piece in the entire battle, it would be quicker and less tedious. The explanations of what's good & what's bad in each image would be kept to the Show-Off board because like as not, they posted their entry there too, so it will already have been given comments & criticism. Even quicker would be if voters just had a simple HTML form to complete and submit - maybe hosted on the SSD website, and a clan stats area that would have individual battles pages with running totals of votes for each piece. Would probably need a bit of PHP coding though, but would probably encourage more votes.

I'd also like clans to be allowed to have an external forum or website of their own, where they weren't previously allowed to be a graphics clan outside of the Clan board. Personally, I want to run or join a clan that can compete outside of SSD, with its own personal website - that could potentially bring each artist in the clan quite a bit of attention at places like deviantArt and other gfx forums, and in turn increase traffic to SSD, while still letting the artists do clan battles here.

[Kay]

n2f said:

I agree fully with Nick on this one. I think we should give it another but with much more organization and better rules, as Nick listed.

I would say to bring it back on a temporary basis or something, and see how it works out for like the first month or so.

Just my random opinion.

[Equinox]

Being in Dork was great fun...but bringing back clans may be questionable.

[Admin]

Most of the people who are replying here were in the more sucessful clans, however the majority that weren't haven't posted. There are only so many designers you can have before just anybody makes a clan for the fun of it. So yes strict rules would be needed like many of you have said. But lets face it a lot of people forget to read rules time and time again, which leads to us getting and them annoyed.

The idea itself great, one way which I could see it working was if you set up your own website beforehand and it would have to be well thoughtout and designed for it to go through.

However as I mentioned earlier getting people organised and actualy submitting and voting is hard. To be honest the members here do not excell in participation with contests which are all nice ideas but when push comes to shove they get abandonned.

We've been there before, time and time again. By the end of it you feel you've just wasted all this time setting up a clan or contest and hardly anyone can be bothered.

So it still gets a no from me. Your ideas that you've given are great but it's like the request board, no matter how many regulations different systems you put in place they don't work here.

[Beam]

i also love ClanFX i was part of D.O.R.K and later after that Crazed's clan i want a return of ClanFX its fun attempting to join and all

[c130]

Okay. If we can't get a full clans board can we get a separate sub-forum in the DID board that will let us challenge and battle each other without getting in the way of regular battles? I still support the basic "vote one-or-the-other" system as opposed to the more complex comments system for regular battles, and I'll encourage that (if a clan battle board is put into the DID section) to get more votes in.

[Key]

i liked it and ejoyed it and many ppl did (at least i think) my vote is to bring it back