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Post by Saknika on Feb 7, 2009 5:43:37 GMT
It's not the best shot I've ever taken, but it's something new. I like the lines and textures, personally. And before anyone asks, no, the whites are not totally blown out. Histogram certified. I'll probably try to reshoot this on a better (less rushed) day. I can't get a much different angle though, because the moment you step foot off the bridge you're both trespassing and in a lot of danger from unstable terrain aka ice. It's on my DA as well.
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Post by comicIDIOT on Feb 7, 2009 6:36:38 GMT
It's not overexposed? Interesting. I rather like the contrast between the ice and the stream(?).
I have a suggestion for a better angle, screw your camera on the end of a tripod, self timer for two or ten seconds and hold your camera upside down by grabbing on to the legs of the tripod (or leg if you are using a mono) and lowering away. You can flip the image over in Lightroom or something later.
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Post by Saknika on Feb 7, 2009 6:48:31 GMT
Oh man... I'd have to grow some serious balls to do that, but it's a good idea. I just... don't trust my strength that much. LMAO I have time to wait on those balls though, since my left arm can't handle holding the weight of my tripod that long yet lol. Yay injuries.
Thank you. <3
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Post by comicIDIOT on Feb 7, 2009 7:19:18 GMT
Haha. Not a problem!
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Feb 8, 2009 10:33:10 GMT
I do love the textures and attention to deatail here. The river cutting through the white is just great, and even after looking for a better crop I realised that this is just the right one, all elements in the frame add to the picture. Though, I would like to be enlightened on one thing, how can you tell from the histogram if the whites are not blown? Just is just a curiosity, I'm not saying they're blown here - I just don't work with digital much. However, I would say that snow does have more detail than that and I would like to see the water a more 'dramatic' grey rather than the pale shade it is now, it would add more impact to the image. This would of done being exposed under by 1/2 or 1/3 a stop. Do you have the RAW, it would be good to see the photo slightly underexposed to this - if only to be corrected that it doesn't look as good like that! Great work Saknika, snow shots are always hard to pull off as they've been done so many times but this is a fresh take
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Post by Saknika on Feb 8, 2009 20:20:11 GMT
I only shoot in RAW, so I do happen to have it. :3 Anyways, in Lightroom (since I know that's what you use) you can tell where you have true black and true whites (under and over exposure) by clicking on those two little arrows that point up on the histogram. Anything that is overblown and true white will become red, and anything that is underexposed and true black will become blue. I will look into forcing some minor underexposure in a bit, I have to reboot my laptop before it's going to let me open Lightroom again. lol Thanks.
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Post by ishmael on Feb 8, 2009 20:38:29 GMT
I like the lines and textures as well. The pure white of the snow contrasted with the water, its beautiful. I would have liked to been there. But i also think some levels adjustment work in photoshop would have done this piece wonders.
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Post by ŋєт™ on Feb 9, 2009 0:05:44 GMT
I would totally not do the tripod thing lol I would be afraid I think it might be cool to see a color version of this with the reflections in the water and stuff.
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Post by Saknika on Feb 9, 2009 0:27:30 GMT
It was a pretty overcast day, so there actually weren't any reflections. Just a lot of yellow and dirt colours from the minerals and sand from the roads. Hence why it's black and white, because I didn't want to see it. lol Anyways, here are those edits you guys wanted to see. The First Edit is the one you saw here. I'm actually liking the Deep Blacks + Lower Lights better though. All of this was done in Lightroom, including the black background multiple images up thing, if anyone is curious. I can't stand the actual exposure and underexposed though. lol But you wanted to see it, Assass. They're linked because otherwise they would stretch the page a bit. xP All FiveFinal Three
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Post by comicIDIOT on Feb 9, 2009 16:09:58 GMT
The Deeper Blacks & Lower Lights looks a tad under exposed, I like it better with a harsh white so you can focus on the blacks. Deep Blacks looks slightly better than the original.
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Post by Saknika on Feb 9, 2009 19:35:04 GMT
Hmmm, yeah, I can see where that could come from.
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Feb 9, 2009 22:15:22 GMT
I prefer deep blacks and lower light personally! I like seeing the detail in the snow. Looking at the original exposure you really did boost the brightness in the snow...certainly too much for my personal liking! Thanks for showing us the different edits.
I've always wondered, what's the difference between the brightness and the exposure bar in lightroom...surely they do very similar things?
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Post by Saknika on Feb 10, 2009 4:31:31 GMT
It's hard to say what the difference is, you really just have to try it to find out. My suggestion would be to take a photograph, and make virtual copies and edit each at a 25 difference both up and down the brightness scale and compare.
Anyways, I also kind of like the detail in the snow. And yeah, looking at the differences, I can see now that it was a bit too bright. But I've also come to realize that I see things a lot differently on my laptop screen then elsewhere, and I think it's because I calibrated it and because of how it's lit and stuff, but I'm not sure.
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