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Post by Sev on May 3, 2008 0:48:22 GMT
As the topic says. Lots of opionated drama in Chillout these days, and it doesn't really belong there.
Arguing over the interwebs is fun, I'll admit, but it should really have it's own board.
Chillout should be chilled out, and the master debater (had to do it at last once) board is where the serious seriousness should be.
(imo!)
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Post by Knighty on May 3, 2008 1:06:28 GMT
Man, I came into this thread expecting to be the one to say master debater...
There used to be a debate board (I THINK!) and it wasn't used as frequently as everyone thought.
But, really, I wouldn't mind a separate board for the lengthy posts and lengthy worded topics, sometimes I want to read through a quick thread and sometimes I want to read through a novel of a thread. And having two separate boards might be helpful. But I'm crazy, so who knows.
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Post by craz on May 3, 2008 2:31:23 GMT
There has been a lot of debates lately in the chillout board, but the majority of the discussion seems to be going in circles.
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Post by xavier on May 3, 2008 4:36:07 GMT
As the topic says. Lots of opionated drama in Chillout these days, and it doesn't really belong there. Arguing over the interwebs is fun, I'll admit, but it should really have it's own board. Chillout should be chilled out, and the master debater (had to do it at last once) board is where the serious seriousness should be. (imo!) There is a difference between arguing and discussing, all I've seen lately is arguing. |
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Post by eternity on May 3, 2008 9:40:16 GMT
As the topic says. Lots of opionated drama in Chillout these days, and it doesn't really belong there. Arguing over the interwebs is fun, I'll admit, but it should really have it's own board. Chillout should be chilled out, and the master debater (had to do it at last once) board is where the serious seriousness should be. (imo!) There is a difference between arguing and discussing, all I've seen lately is arguing. It did start out as debate, but yeah, these things tend to go down hill if not moderated.
I quite like this idea actually and I know we have quite a few members with strong opinions on things here that would enjoy a board like this. |
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Post by ><Lamaenic>< on May 3, 2008 11:39:53 GMT
This would have to be like watched so fricken closely because of how many flame wars get started here. That's one of the reasons Xino crashed the first couple of times :S
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Post by Dalton on May 3, 2008 19:06:13 GMT
Debate Board FTW... 'Nuff Said.
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Post by Nexxia on May 4, 2008 2:19:26 GMT
considering so much of the chillout board consists of these threads I don't know if that would make sense, chillout's activity would drop significantly I would think. Plus, threads that don't start out with debates end up turning into them anyway.
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Post by nrich on May 4, 2008 2:30:25 GMT
considering so much of the chillout board consists of these threads I don't know if that would make sense, chillout's activity would drop significantly I would think. Plus, threads that don't start out with debates end up turning into them anyway. That's about it in a nutshell New toys are only fun for a while |
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Post by artos on May 5, 2008 6:42:46 GMT
There is no "intellectual discussion" happening in Chillout. It is nothing more than arguing; such "intellectual discussion" would require actual intellect.
It is nothing more than a matter of who can type the boldest or provide the largest and most overwhelming amount of text. How amusing it is, really-- egos being thrown around with reckless abandon in effort to always try to be in the right.
When those involved learn to concede ground in a topic, then intellect might actually start to develop. Until then, all there will be is childish "no, you" arguments just for the sake of such.
If you wish to keep pretending that such "discussion" is "intellectual," then go right ahead. However, it is nothing more than farce.
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Post by gray929 on May 5, 2008 22:02:21 GMT
Maybe if we had this sub board, people would feel more inclined to actually post intellectual content instead of the rubbish we see now which ultimately end up in an arguments between two members. It would be an enforced environment.
I don't think activity in Chillout will drop a substantial amount. This board will be strictly for debates I'm assuming. Things like abortion, drug legalization, gun control ect. Unless thats not what you had in mind.
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Post by Vintage on May 5, 2008 22:37:51 GMT
There is no "intellectual discussion" happening in Chillout. It is nothing more than arguing; such "intellectual discussion" would require actual intellect. It is nothing more than a matter of who can type the boldest or provide the largest and most overwhelming amount of text. How amusing it is, really-- egos being thrown around with reckless abandon in effort to always try to be in the right. When those involved learn to concede ground in a topic, then intellect might actually start to develop. Until then, all there will be is childish "no, you" arguments just for the sake of such. If you wish to keep pretending that such "discussion" is "intellectual," then go right ahead. However, it is nothing more than farce. This quote is quite fitting - “Intellect is invisible to the man who has none” - Arthur Schopenhauer  More over, I'd like the idea of a debate area but it can't have pre-defined topics ... you'd run in to a rut. We should be able to freely post topics - I mean as long as they aren't always "which color is better." or something like that ... |
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Post by xavier on May 5, 2008 23:32:52 GMT
There is no "intellectual discussion" happening in Chillout. It is nothing more than arguing; such "intellectual discussion" would require actual intellect. Thank you, that's what I was saying. Currently there is arguing, not a lot more. Apart from the select few that actually try to discuss rather than argue. I see no point in a discussion board when most people here don't know how to conduct a proper discussion. |
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Post by Kay on May 5, 2008 23:38:43 GMT
Well...you know...you could always set an example by having a proper discussion thread.
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Post by xavier on May 5, 2008 23:45:45 GMT
Well...you know...you could always set an example by having a proper discussion thread. I could start a proper discussion thread, but it would be pretty hard to keep it on track and stop it spiraling into flaming. There's not a lot I can do about keeping it on track. |
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Post by Kay on May 5, 2008 23:50:35 GMT
No, but that's what I'm here for. Along with Gray, James, E and the rest of the staff.
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Post by xavier on May 5, 2008 23:56:00 GMT
If I think a topic will descend into flaming I'm not going to post it. I don't need to add to the drama and/or create work for the moderators by creating a topic some people will probably take way too seriously.
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Post by Sev on May 6, 2008 1:23:36 GMT
There is no "intellectual discussion" happening in Chillout. It is nothing more than arguing; such "intellectual discussion" would require actual intellect. For one to have intellect, they only need to be able to think, learn, and problem solve. 'Intellect' is a term that implies measurement, everyone who participates in a debate uses theirs to a certain extent. How ironic that Artos of all people would misuse such an easy word. It is nothing more than a matter of who can type the boldest or provide the largest and most overwhelming amount of text. How amusing it is, really-- egos being thrown around with reckless abandon in effort to always try to be in the right. Well that's not hypocritical at all. When those involved learn to concede ground in a topic, then intellect might actually start to develop. Until then, all there will be is childish "no, you" arguments just for the sake of such. Until you said this I figured you were just trolling. I can partially agree with this. People on this forum tend to be closeminded. However, in a debate, conceding your mistakes isn't exactly a successful strategy. If you wish to keep pretending that such "discussion" is "intellectual," then go right ahead. However, it is nothing more than farce. What is intellectual for some may not be for you. Just because a person is poor at debating doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to try. How does one become good at something without practice? PS. NO UR A FARCE |
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Post by artos on May 6, 2008 1:42:18 GMT
Well...you know...you could always set an example by having a proper discussion thread. Oh, they all start like that. You could set an example by not reinforcing the arguing.
For one to have intellect, they only need to be able to think, learn, and problem solve. 'Intellect' is a term that implies measurement, everyone who participates in a debate uses theirs to a certain extent. How ironic that Artos of all people would misuse such an easy word. I stand by what I see-- and I see nothing of the sort here. What is intellectual for some may not be for you. Just because a person is poor at debating doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to try. How does one become good at something without practice? Osmosis. Aw, that's the sweetest thing anyone's said to me all day. |
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Post by Sev on May 6, 2008 1:47:52 GMT
Don't get me started sexypants, or I'll start busting out the one liners.
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