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Post by Morgoth on Dec 27, 2005 0:09:31 GMT
No you're right, expanding isn't the right word because it is just moving things around. It's diluting. Chillout is being swamped now. I've been here as long as there's been a chillout, and I can tell you it hasn't always been like this, and it won't always be. It needs to be consistent for a long period of time before a sub-board is made. By what you're saying, it sounds like you want to remove literature discussion from chillout because it's intelligent. That is precisely why it's a bad idea: chillout needs as much intelligent discussion as it can get, moving it away will do nothing to help. And then when the sports sub-board is asked for, it's just one more little sub-board, then the music sub-board, and then, eventually, the cake-baking sub-board is just one more. If you start, where do you stop? And if you leave it at literature, it gives the impression that SSD is slanted towards literature more than it is something else. If literature is an art, why are you proposing the sub-board go under a general board? It's more generalisation. Chillout needs literature threads, because otherwise it'll be left with "not so funny videos." What people want and what people (or in this case, the forum) need are often two completely different things. I want a Wuthering Heights sub-board (don't ask, and actually, I don't, but that's not the point ). It doesn't mean SSD should have one. First, foremost, lastly and everything in between SSD is a design forum. That should never be forgotten.
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Post by Combo on Dec 27, 2005 2:58:31 GMT
Don't even bother arguing with Ash, He'll just win. And i agree with him >_<
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Post by Signore Kai on Dec 27, 2005 6:23:28 GMT
When there is demand, there should be supply. The chillout board is basically where you crap around. Tell me, does anyone at the age of 18 and below talks about Politics as "general" stuff?
The literature board is there to separate the literature threads away from other general talk., because Literature is a form of art that not everyone is interested in. Yet we do not request for a board on its own because SSD is a design community. Literature, while an art on its own, is not part of the direction where SSD is heading. Thus, it goes into the "general" board.
Anything else other than Web designing, programming, graphics development is considered "general" in a design community, simply because it is NOT part of "design".
Cake baking is an art of its own, but tell me, who goes to a design forum asking for help on cake-baking? Music discussion is NOT an art. It is just a general topic.
And by the way, demands is defined as the request of more than one person. Two people's request isn't much not a demand either, but one's certainly isn't.
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Post by Ovi on Dec 27, 2005 8:35:13 GMT
I have to agree with Morgoth. Let this run for a longer time
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Dec 27, 2005 8:43:22 GMT
Right, firstly, binary-nwitz. Music is and art, more of an art than literature. The three main arts are art, drama(films) and music.(I just needed to correct you there, sorry) Now that's over with, morgoth. You have said that each sub-board will just build up. Is there a demand for a sports sub-board? There is more a demand for a music sub-board but not enough to seperate it from chillout's main stream. Literature is booming, if it dies down after a few weeks then ok, but why can't we just try it out? It may bring more members into the community if we have a sub-board for literature and then if the board grows and thrives we'll keep it. What is your problem? Someone said they don't want to look at all this 'crap' in chillout, well now we you don't have to. I presume by you not supporting the sub-board you don't like the literature in chillout, so why do you have to look at it any longer?
Lastly, if you want sensible discussions in chillout then make them, simple, problem solved.
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Post by Morgoth on Dec 27, 2005 12:12:56 GMT
No there isn't demand for a sports sub-board or a music sub-board at present, but there has been in the past. Indeed, there used to be sub-boards in Chillout, and all they did was even further ruin the quality of posts in Chillout itself.
We should wait a significant period of time, months at least, before a sub-board is created. Literature has been 'booming' for no more than a fortnight, jumping on the bandwagon and running away with temporary activity will be detrimental in the long run.
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Post by Xephra on Dec 27, 2005 14:32:11 GMT
Whoever's interested in this, just back away from this topic, and do what you wanted to be done. All you have to do is post a new piece of yours and get a few replies, and then post another. Just do what the literature board would be for. Wait until UC comes back.
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Post by urbancinderella on Jan 3, 2006 1:14:18 GMT
Hmm... frankly, I agree most with Morgoth on this topic. In the past, there have been plenty of demands for sub-boards which did just detract from Chillout... and sure enough, there was a flood of activity during that time.
However, I do think there have always been a few pieces of literature trickling through... and they have always seemed out of place. I define Chillout as an area to hang out and discuss with other members of our community. Displaying a piece of art is for Show Off, not Chillout... and I think we all agree that literature is art. It's just as personal to show a piece of writing as it is to show a new code or a new graphic.
For that reason, I believe in separating it out- but not adding a sub-board in Chillout. All posts would be displaying literature and receiving comments back on it. Discussion for writing belongs on a more generalized writing forum... and as Morgoth said, this is not Solidsnake Library, it is Solidsnake Designs.
So as of now, there will be a sub-board in Show Off for this very purpose. In a few months, after the excitement has died down, Oliver and I will re-evaluate it.
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Post by Xephra on Jan 3, 2006 2:54:26 GMT
A small win, but a good one.
Thanks UC.
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Post by Assassinator/Young Everest on Jan 3, 2006 7:34:52 GMT
Bingo.
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